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FunGu Arsten
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Posted - 2014.10.17 22:02:00 -
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lol at cloak changes...
good job removing all competition, in favor of multiboxers..
less real people doing bomber runs - less standard anti-bomberfittings - more tears when i warp
box 1 warp to 0 - box 2 warp to 10 - box 3 warp to 20 - etc...
does anyone play this game when changes are beeing proposed... or is it still listening to the biggest whiners first?
** CCP you are making multiboxer fleets stronger! Thank you ** |
FunGu Arsten
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Posted - 2014.10.18 11:04:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/1410/IBombers.png
This. Nice graphic, the only issue I have with it is when do they cloak? If (btw has this little gem been confirmed?) they can be decloaked in warp if they are in the same warp bubble would they all have to space out ahead of time or would they cycle in? m
do you eaven know what you're talking about
- the isboxer bomb fleet is already setup to warp at differend ranges ....
- warp to random object at their respected distance - cloak
- keep at range 30km preset so the fleet moves away from the center ship??
and lets face it - IF you would uncloak eachother in warp when warping from the same grid to another location in system- then there is no need for a covert cloak right??
the changes are shortsighted, ineffective and doing the exact difference what you want them to do.
> people who play this game, know the things that are complained about already given you the exact reasons why this is bad,wrong and utterly dumb... Though we all know it will be ignored and more tears will flow |
FunGu Arsten
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Posted - 2014.10.18 11:35:00 -
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BROTHER Mullakai wrote:All is not lost , ( we usually just have a very small group and warp our selves so this is less about de cloaking as we go different times and distances ) i am a little concerned about the 12s on bombs thing but people on the ball will get away any way with 10 secs and numbskulls dont even notice it heading their way and im sure that will continue . The align thing was bugging me then i rememberd http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/sensor-overlay-2.0-bigger-better-bookmarks-in-spacier/This is happening , bookmarks on overlay in same expansion unless i have this wrong you could literraly set bookmarks on the fly the opposite side to each other of target , get closer (having overlay bookmark on selected item ready ) de cloak / bomb/warp by clicking slected item as usuall ;) Never have to really align . Hope i have this right ?
As always.. great changes beeing overshadowed by that one "wtfwereyouthinking"-change...
"The only lesson we ever learn is that we never learn "
Robert Fisk: |
FunGu Arsten
Fungu .Inc
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Posted - 2014.10.19 09:18:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Oh I got it before, I actually like old pythagorus and his sex cult.
I think the best thing will be proof of concept, if isboxers are seen to go to the onetime effort to set up the new ones and keep on keeping on. All the theory crafting in the world is easier to show once empirical evidence is dragged out into the town square and shown for what it really is (scooby doo reveal)
m
said this a couple post before.... no harm in quoting it again:
Quote:"The only lesson we ever learn is that we never learn "
Robert Fisk:
no use in warning any further... Rule one to beeing alowed to propose changes in EVE, know nothing about the actual gameplay involved and never listen to detailed arguments on how the changes are flawded...
I wont even go to ignoring better proposals.. cuz that wouldn't fit into your own agenda.
see you on the field ( i'll be in bombers)
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FunGu Arsten
Fungu .Inc
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Posted - 2014.10.19 11:33:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Calvyr Travonis wrote:
So what you're saying is that we just leave this all as proposed and "if" the ISBoxers adapt, which we know they will, then revisit it?
No, I think we should be holding a logical and open discussion and I have asked for input, summarized said input, presented it here and then taken it to CCP, THAT is what I do. Nut this change discussion is about stealth bombing and (a point a lot of you are ignoring) stealth in general. Not ISBoxer. Discuss the issues on the table and try to avoid designing the way a multiboxer will work his way around it. m
- not seeing your allies and decloaking your fleet - was not a problem brought up?
- all other ships using a cloak are affected by this? WHs operations depend on beeing hidden until you can get that point onto your prey - every other person in system that is cloaked/warping cloaked etc is a liability?
- "returning gamefeature" that was years ago fixed because it was a bug?
i find it funny how you think this playerbase is stupid enough to not see this is a reaction to multiboxbomber setups... its an insult to be honnest.
I multibox, i love it and have no issue with it at all. but bombers beeing multiboxed are overpowered because of the way the bombers work, any other ship has a counter when multiboxed.
but keep ignoring the players who actualy log in and use the features you are nerfbatting... it has always worked in the passed (< sarcasm )
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FunGu Arsten
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Posted - 2014.10.23 17:12:04 -
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Altrue wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey everyone. Just wanted to let you know that I'm back from Vegas and all caught up on the thread.
I want to remind people that any debates around isboxer are a separate issue from the changes listed in this thread. I completely understand that many of you have passionate opinions on that topic, but I should be clear that none of the people who are involved with CCP's policy towards isboxer are reading this particular thread.
We received a lot of great feedback so far in this thread and at EVE Vegas, and we're currently taking another look over the changes to make sure they hit all the marks we are aiming for.
Thanks again
-Fozzie That's a mistake. Isboxer currently allows bombers to do things that regular humans can't do: being perfectly syncronized in terms of timing and positionning. Two things that are heavily important for bombers. Discussing bomber balance without taking into account isboxer is completely irrealistic, at best. 
can i still have 10 bombers online on differend pcs and use an usb mouse broadcasting system to click cloak - bomb - warp?
yes multiboxed bombers are an issue... the software you are naming isn't. the ability to multibox =/= one software.
there are more ways to get this done, none using software (or specificly Isboxer) |
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